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Name: Revd. Andrew J Weaver
email: aweaver@Hawaii.edu
Message: Ms. Clinton is the first Methodist in the White House since President McKinley. She is a person with the love of God in her heart according to the church folks who have worked with her in Methodist church in Arkansas, including the former Bishop of Arkansas, Richard Wilke. The Clintons have been able to bring a new spiritual up lift to many people through their example of courage and grace in the face dehumanizing attacks by people who appear to have their hearts hardened against goodness. Her detractors often live by the conviction that "it takes a village to burn a witch". Pray for the Clintons and pray for the souls of their often self-deluted and self-rigtheous foes who have no love for the truth. God is faithful and the Clintons are people who know this in their hearts. Their greatness will be the glory they give to God by setting an example of love and faith that will bring courage and hope to others. Her enemies mean her ill but God is using her witness for good to bring spiritual uplift to a nation soulworn by greed and false piety. Be of good courage and hold face to that which is good and Godly--Revd. Andrew J. Weaver Ph.D.
Kenneth Starr is Everybody's Nightmare
Name: JAMES DAHLSTROM
email: jamesdal@efn.org
Message: The best defense could be using Starr's own grand juries against him. Grand juries are part of the BILL OF RIGHTS, originally ment to protect the accused from prosecutors like Mr. Starr. By informing the public and the Grand Jury members of the full powers and duties of the grand jury, they would know they have the right to conduct their own investigations. This could include Mr. Starr and his crew for their tatics used during this investigation. I believe the fifth amendment was designed by our founding fathers to protect people from excessive government persecutions. Grand juries should be guarding the Constitution.
Name: Anthony Lewis
email: REPRINT from SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, 3/3/98
Name: Surfin' Al Hayg
email: hayg@yahoo.com
Message: In our great country, everybody is assured of the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise. That applies to the President of The United States. However, it ALSO applies to the Special Prosecutor. If it can be proven that he has misused his office, get rid of him. But he is entitled to the same benefit of the doubt that the President is entitled to. Since his staff is composed almost equally of Democrats and Republicans, why all the complaints?
Name: Regarding Kenneth Starr
email: out.of.control@special.persecutor.gov
Message: This message is for Al Hayg. I thought you made a good point about "presumption of innocence until proven otherwise" and that it should be applied to the President as well as the Special Persecutor. BUT.... there's is one huge difference here. Kenneth Starr is guilty of PERSECUTION. We don't need to go to court to prove it, he demonstrates it before our eyes every day. Kenneth Starr is acting like a nazi, and we don't need this in our country, or in any other country ever again. Rule by intimidation and terror is not something that should be tolerated at such a high level in our government. Officials at this level SET AN EXAMPLE for the rest of us. How would you like it if Kenneth Starr used information from tapes illegally recorded and then set up your best friend to prompt you into saying something to humiliate you in public? WHO AMONG US CAN PASS THIS TEST??? I don't know of anyone who thinks they can have their intimate conversations taped and published without disasterous consequences. How would you like it if Kenneth Starr terrorized your mother to the point that she had to be taken out in a wheelchair?? Your mother committed no crime yet she was forced to betray her daughter's most intimate conversations. The relationship between mother and daughter, mother and child, is the most sacred of all. Everyone knows this so how come Kenneth Starr does not? If Kenneth Starr cannot respect this most sacred of human relationship then he is not capable of respecting humanity.
Mr. Starr has been found GUILTY in the Court of Human Decency for DISRESPECT.
Disrespect for our privacy; disrespect for human relationships; disrespect for the level of human decency we desire in upper levels of government; disrespect for the Office of the Presidency, if not the President himself, disrespect,disrespect,disrespect,disrespect ..............
Al Hayg, if you want to live in a country where this type of behavior is fair game in the highest levels of government, I feel really sorry for you because you don't know where this leads. This is the SLIPPERY SLOPE, Mr. Hayg, you will be next -- yes, next week Mr. Starr will be kicking down your door at 4:00 a.m. in the morning because you visited the Hillary Clinton Defense Forum. Be very careful of people with nazi tendencies, they get carried away so easily.
Name: Agent X
email: agentx@conspiracy.org
Message: To: All Agents and Operatives From: Conspiracy Planning Commitee Please be advised that the times for this week's meetings have been changed. Contact your Cell Leader on the designated sideband frequency for the amended schedule. Also, we are still conducting interviews for the position of Oval Office Operative (Henceforth, Agent OOO). As you are aware, our former Agent OOO has had her cover blown. All prospective candidates will need to show proficiency in Oral Defense Skills as outlined in the Conspiracy Operatives Handbook. End of Transmission
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Name: Big Al Gore
email: bigal@whitehouse.gov
Message: Send Monica to Iraq. She can blow them all away.
Name: Ellen
email:
Message: Hillary...I never much liked your politics or positions on things, but as a woman I certainly do feel sad for you within the framework of your husbands indiscretions. I admired you for staying through the Jennifer Flowers episode, etc...A very strong and dedicated woman. God Bless you and your family
Name: Ron
email: Rwall953
Message: Hillary, You were kind to me during my divorce in 1982. You did so without any reason and I will never forget it. I personally have been accused of things in my life that I have not done and some things I was accused of I have done. Neither were easy things to face. It doesn't appear the public realize the implications of letting Kenneth Starr probe into someones personal life. They may not care until it is so close to home that they cannot protest. The very least that we could do is support you Hillary and Bill for all that you have sacrificed to be public figures and to work like you have.....If the average person only knew the time and toil with which the two of you work. I still can't believe that we grant immunity to foreign diplomats and we would consider impeaching our president for asking that the world not be involved in his sex life, and that the two of you could work whatever needs to be worked out in the privacy that we all expect as Americans... ..I will always appreciate you Hillary, and the good life I have today.
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Name: jesse helms
email: right-wing@wacko.com
Message: Boy are we glad that our right-wing wacko plan did'nt bring down Mr. Clinton's presidency. Better the devil we know then the devil (Gore), we don't know. Anyways, Bill has been a moderate republican the last 3 years. I guess that is acceptable.
Name: poll taker
email:
Message: I took a poll of 148 men in my senior citizen development on how they would react to monica lewis temptation. 89% said that they would be tempted by fleshly desire but would not do it because of the love & trust that they have for their wives. But these men are between 55-83 years old who come from a different Godly generation. Respect for the marriage vows & long time commitment to their wives' love was the reason given for their rejection of monica's temptation. Keeping the Marriage Vows before GOD is one the main character attrbutes to aid a man to lead a good life. Your wife is your friend, confidant, lover, soul mate & trusted advisor who will in most cases lead you down the right path to success.
Name: Ernest Slyman
email:
Message:
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Name: Impeach Clinton
email: discipline@no.czars.com
Message: Impeach Clinton .... and her husband too!
Name: G. B.
email: nonewtaxies@lowprofile.com
Message: Thank You. Thank you. Thank you. I am so happy that when I was in office the Democrats didn’t hound me like the conservative right wing has been hound you and Bill. So I said “No New Taxes” they didn’t sick Ken Star on me. They didn’t haul my mother before a Grande jury. 30 million dollars and what do we have to show for it. I know, we could have built allot of schools with that money. Those Right wingers are acting like the sore losers that they are. They know everything, just ask any conservative and even though they were not in the Whitehouse at the time and they will tell you. Excuse me I have to help my son with a little problem at the Silverado Savings and Loan.
Name: WASHINGTON (Reuters)
email: rethink.the.internet@no.way.com
Message: WASHINGTON (Reuters)- Hillary Rodham Clinton said in a meeting with reporters Wednesday that "we are all going to have to rethink how we deal with" the Internet because of the handling of White House sex scandal stories on Web sites.
"....Without any kind of editing function or gatekeeping function, what does it mean to have the right to defend your reputation," she said.
Oh, Hillary, Hillary, for goodness sake. What a control freak you are. You have as much right to defend yourself on the Internet as every human on this earth who has access to the Internet. You could set up your own web page and blast those who criticize you.
Name: Vincent Foster
email: Fortmarcy@leftylooney.com
Message: Gee Hill, It hasn't gone quite the way we planned it that night at the Holiday Inn [God you were good]!! Why in the world was I taken out, I made all the Swiss deliveries, I shredded all the Rose stuff? How come took all the stuff out of my office? Why in the world did you hide it in the residence? Is Bill and Webb out of their minds, they were supposed to keep their heads down, not a bunch of young girls' heads down!!!!Dick Morris has to be losing his mind, and Carville has lost his place in line up here.When you asked me to come DC from Little Rock, I never suspected the Old gang, Thomases, Nussbaum, Trie, Hung, Hsai, Kendall, Watkins, Elders and the rest would be put in charge! That was a big mistake you know what a bunch of Twits they are. How come Espy, Cisneros, O'Leary, Babbitt and the resr are indicted, can't they keep their hands out of the cookie jar until their term is over!!! Well Hill, the boss is calling, by the way he says since he is a part of the Right Wing Conspiracy, there is no room for you here, you will be going to the South wing. Gettin' any? Your Lost Lover , Vince
Name: Mona Charen
email:
Message: THE UNFOLDING BILL CLINTON DRAMA may become the O.J. trial of our political life. It will not divide the country along racial lines, but it may deepen and exacerbate the cultural chasm that already exists between cultural liberals and conservatives. For that segment of the voters who have told pollsters that they were reserving judgment until all the facts were in, there is news: You have all of the exculpatory facts you are likely to get from this president. Three weeks ago, he promised a full accounting of his actions, "sooner rather than later, more rather than less." But that was before his poll numbers began to rise. That promise is now as dead as Bill Clinton's middle-class tax cut, as inoperative as his claim that he never sold the Lincoln bedroom, as reliable as his memory about whether he was drafted. The president's claim that he is silent because he is complying with the rules of the grand jury proceedings is just another lie. There is no rule that requires him to stay mum. White House spinner Paul Begala tries another tack. He protests that the president cannot speak because Ken Starr stands ready to charge him with perjury. But the president would have nothing to fear if he planned to tell the truth. Nothing to fear from Starr, that is. He would, of course, have a great deal to fear from the voters if he spoke the truth. President Clinton has demonstrated throughout his life that he has no conscience. Most of us cannot lie even when we know it would benefit us. President Clinton often cannot tell the truth even when it would not hurt him. This is a man who lied about whether he had visited McDonalds during his time in the White House. He is corrupt, and he has corrupted those around him. From the state troopers in Arkansas who were pressed into service to procure women, to campaign workers like Betsey Wright, who help
Name: For Mona Charen (above)
email: naive@message.above.com
Message: Oh, Mona, you must be mixing with some very strange "cultural liberals" if you think the sex scandals will "deepen and exacerbate the cultural chasm that already exists between cultural liberals and conservatives." We cultural liberals were under no illusion about Bill Clinton when we elected him. His sexual dalliances and lack of zipper control were well known. Ditto for his cover-ups and lies. We did not elect Bill for sainthood, we elected him because
he was the best one to put this country back on its economic feet, and he has
done that way beyond our expectations. What choices did we have? We could have elected "read my lips Bush" who stagnated the economy, or Bill.
Mona, you are so naive. An honest politician is an oxymoron. Surely you know that by now.
You seem old enough by the tone of your writing, but not mature enough by your effort to spend all that time listing all Bill's lies. We KNOW ABOUT THEM!
On the contrary, in our office, we find that we have much in common with the right wing this time around, because we are discussing SEX not policy. What is
the definition of a sexual relationship??? All of us have had so much fun with this topic, telling each other dirty jokes about Monica, Bill, etc.
Name: peeved
email: right royal
Message: Dear Hillary and Bill, In reading your deposition re the Jones case; I hope you rot in hell. I think Bill that it is time that you realize that some of us women are really fucking tiered of having passes made at us. What gives you the president or an man the right to request sexual relation and be sumbmitted to be exposed to. What give men like you the right to think that women are only in this world for sex. What gives you the right to exude your sexual impulses on amy women? You make me sick. The whole thing was and is humiliating. It is degrading. It is low. Had it been me I would have punched you in you in the gut. You are lower then low. It is not about humiliating you the president it is the conduct of your behavior as a man. It is disgusting. Who cares if the person was or was not able to work. The humiliation is there. It is no honor to have a pass made at by even the most exquiiste dignataries or the lowest bumb. It is disgusting . Why would a married man even ask for sexual favors and this authorized by his wife. Why were you not upfront and asked paula jones in a note so she could make the choice instead of humiating her the way you did? Because you were hiding your affairs and because you exposed yourself. That is above the law. Did the Eagle get removed, was it a plastic was it a rumor. You can control the whole top of the government but eventually you will stand alone because everyone of us will never trust you ever again. We will never trust one word that you utter we know that everything you say is BS in a year or two or ten. So why bother. So why not just step down and let someone else that is adult and not involved in such messes so the people can be themselves again. The only reason you are in office right now is because you refuse to step down. You embarass us all over the world and have the guts to continue this game. You blame everyone else and you never take responsability . I am sure the news will get worse day by day slowly as it all turns slowly. Wake up man, you know the truth what the hell are you hanging on for. Lies get uncovered. You knew damn well of everything going on around you. It is either you did know and you should not be in office or you didn't know which means you are too naive to be in office. Grow up... leave. take a hike. Hillary, after this depostion, you also disgust me there is nothing pure about you and just stop spraying your anger on to everyone pretending their is a conspiracey when really the only conspiracy is the acts that you have commited yourself. Lets get this rolling in the right direction could all those at the White house please begin telling the truth instead of covering up for someone who is a pathetic strecher of the truth with smart words that pretend that thier is no wrong when the manure pile is glowing.
Name: socks
email: @rural america
Message: dear hillary,you have guts and i admire you.do not let monica that man hungary over ambitious child on a power trip. she is pathetic, has no shame,she has managed to get her name on everyones lips like a germ that will not go away....its obvious to many of us that the Republicans saw their chance to create a media frenzy.who cares what monica says ????/ her blabber mouth has turned this into a witch hunt. this country is in the best shape its been in years, thanks to our president, run the country,too hell with monica and the rest of the wantabees. look clooser in little monicas past she is sick,sick she needs a shrink.who put her up to this???/ she is not smart enough on her own to have
Name: you go BILL
email:
Message: nothing but the best sex available for our president!
Moms, send your daughters - gotta keep this man going YOU GO BILL.
.....whooooooo whooooooooo whoooooo! Girls, do your patriotic duty!
Send snapshots so we can weed out all of you without BIG BIG hair.
Pack a chap-stick you'll need it. YEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAA!
Luv ya feminists! especially when your doing your duty!!!!!!!!!
!!!! WAAAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOO!
Name: Not Clear on the Concept - Feminists
email: lesson.on.feminism@school.com
Message: In answer to the message above, the writer believes Monica is a feminist. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Monica is the OPPOSITE of a feminist.
Feminists make it on their own, they do not have to attach themselves to men of power who use them for an
ego trip, arrogance, power trip, or any other demeaning reason.
Feminism evolved to train women to be independent of this garbage. A real feminist is one
who makes her own money, is independent, and if she attaches herself to a man it will be a
man who is her partner, who respects her and treats her as an equal.
Whoever you are, it is obvious that you will never be a partner to a feminist,
because you do not understand the concept. Bimbos are not feminists. Bimbos are the opposite
of feminists. Prostitutes, call girls, bimbos and subservient women are NOT feminists.
Get it?
Name: ONE OF THE TROOPS
email:
Message: SEND 100,000 TO IRAQ. THEY GET GASSED. SEND ANOTHER 100,000 TO IRAQ. THEY GET GASSED. SEND ANOTHER 100,000 TO IRAQ. THEY GET GASSED. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" CHELMNO, AUSCHWITZ, BELZEC, TREBLINKA, MAIDANEK. !!!!!!!!!!!!!! WILL WE ALLOW ANOTHER FANATIC TO DESTROY MILLIONS OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS JUST BECAUSE HE HATES THE MILITARY?
Name: George Bush
email:
Message: Well Bill you really got blown away this time.
You know this monica thing really sucks.
I am told she didn't inhale. does that make it ok to lie to the world
How come you are so stupid.
Do you think the whole world believes you.
You are a idiot.
Name: Victor Friedman
email:
Message: Iraq will launch chemical attacks against Israel. Israel will respond with
nukes. Millions will die. 1234 we don't want your racist war.
Name: Tony
email: MDLDUSA@aol.com
Message:
Question: If Hillary divorces Bill does she get half the country?
Name: Yeh
email: for Tripp
Message: Hello is Monica's father for real? Questioning that Tripp is not a true friend. Well pardon me but who is the true friend? Would a real friend expect you to to lie and lie to the point that a felony is committed. Sorry I have no room for the tears, Monica played with fire it is unfortunate that it is before the world. It is unfortunate that dear Bill did not have the maturiy to say no. Why not get angry at Bill as he did the work in this weather innocent or not there is no excuse.
I may not appreciate the 9 hour ordeal but what where they supose to do. If someone is going to lie they had the decencey to tell dear Monica the truth, yes there is a jail sentance for telling lies. Ditto. There is no excuse. All of this would not have been a big deal if everyone would have told the truth in the first place now it has become a big issue. What does anyone expect?
So sorry daddy oh, it must be hard for you but Starr did not do what Monica did so why blame anyone? Just look at the facts. If anyone is Hotler like it his Clinton himself. No one else would dare to pretend that they have the power to help everyone when it is just a line. Why not get angry to Clinton for the lines he gave your daughter instead of blaming a man who is in everyway a fine example of an upright person with character and dignity.
You may be outraged but don't expect the rest of the world to feel the same as you. The whole thing is stupid. No one is taking down the president except his own lies if that is how things are going to work out or if he is telling the truth your daughter and many others are up for very big defamation suits. So I don't understand why yu still want to protect him. It does not make sense.
Do you not think that the president has to be responsible? Does not matter who he all coherts with dear Hillary will accept whatever he does. No problems hear it is though with the fact that there are many untruths.
What is really behind Iraq? Is it a racist view of the mouslum world? Which Christians are doing the backing? Are not the Arabs also worthy of human dignity? Can't this be worked out peacefully.
I want the warefare bacterial and nuclear dismanteled and China can also start putting down her weapons. I don't want any harm to anyone but I do want resoloution.
I feel for Monica, I can imagine that she believed what she was told from Clinton and the rejection aftwer being used is unfair. It is all those lines that some men give. Niave women are to believe them. Playing with anothers soul and love is just so irresponsib;e, perhaps no rule to follow in the court but it is a morale issue and morals are certainly missing. My daughter 16 is disgusted. Not by Monica but by Clinton. She wonders if men think that women are some piece of property instead of the human beings that they are.
I have had enough. The last war in the gulf what good did it do but traumatize nations. Really without thought. There was no need to go in, I think it would be appropriate to send the troops home or leave them ther the next six months as negotiations happen but stop threatning us daily with the need to attack. Do it if all else fails down the road. Resolve with negotiation set up a rat trap for Mr Insane.
I really don't like being pushed by anyone to hear what Albright and others think I can think for myself. Just to controling like everything from the White House. Too manipulating. Come on Congress wake up and do the right thing.
Patty
Name: ONE OF THE TROOPS
email:
Message: THE "JEWISH QUESTION"? THE "AMERICAN PATRIOT QUESTION" THE "AMERICAN MALE QUESTION"? IT LOOKS LIKE THE GRAND HIGH PERVERT IS FIGURING ON A "FINAL SOLUTION" OF HIS OWN. WHAT SECTOR OF AMERICAN SOCIETY WILL HE KILL AND CREMATE. PERVERTS DEFEND PERVERTS. IT WILL BE A SECTOR OF OUR SOCIETY MADE UP OF STRONG AND FAITHFUL INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL BE ELIMINATED. HOW WILL HE CHOOSE? WILL IT BE YOU? YOUR NEIGHBOR? YOUR FAMILY? WILL AMERICA STAND BY AND LET ANOTHER HOLOCAUST TAKE PLACE? STAND UP TO THESE PERVERTS. THIS MAY BE OUR LAST CHANCE.
Name: Uncle Sam
email:
Message: It was fun while it lasted, folks click here to get a glimpse of Hillary's new love child. WE MEAN NO HARM TO YOUR PLANET.
Name: Hillary Rodham Clinton
email: FirstLady@whitehouse.com
Message: Thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak to you personally because I really need your help, as I am sure many of you will understand under the circumstances.
I love my husband so much that I would go to bat for him ...
"for better or for worse." It is an honor to keep my marriage vows with a man of his stature.
I marvel at his abilities every day, but he isn't perfect. You know what his
weaknesses are. I give you full permission to believe anything you want from the evidence you have absorbed over this last weeks, even though much of it is just hogwash.
Name: steve
email: studs@aol.com
Message: hillary clinton is a fine looking woman. Much better than when she and Bill met.I would love the opportunity to meet hillry alone on the oval office myself if I had the chance. It would be a meeting she would not soon forget. Way to go Hillary! Stand by your man whether he did it or not. Learn to give better head so he won't stray. And when you do learn to give the type of head men dream of, give me a call. I'll be ready.
Name: Bill Clinton
email: President@whitehouse.gov
Message: Regarding Hillary's sexuality. I want you all to know that Hillary is the love of my life. I married her because she was the best. The best lover, the most beautiful person, and the most brilliant woman I have ever personally known. I enjoy my lovemaking with her more than anything else in my life. She lifts me spiritually, sexually and sensually to worlds no other woman I have ever known can even begin to conceive. Our lovemaking last for hours, after which I am totally fulfilled, refreshed and energized to face the very strenuous job of running this country.
Name: AMERICA
email:
Message: AMERICA, IN NAME & SPIRIT, IS CHASTE. NO BLOWJOBS TO BE GIVEN TO ANY PRESIDENT OR POTENTATE BY THIS COUNTRY. YOU PERVERTS WILL HAVE TO LOOK ELSEWHERE FOR YOUR SELF PLEASURING. PERVERT, GET LOST!!!!!!!!
Name: JAMES DAHLSTROM
email: jamesdal@efn.org
Message: The best defense could be using Starr's own grand juries against him.
Grand juries are part of the BILL OF RIGHTS, originally ment to protect
the accused from prosecutors like Mr. Starr. By informing the public
and the Grand Jury members of the full powers and duties of the grand
jury, they would know they have the right to conduct their own
investigations. This could include Mr. Starr and his crew for their tatics
used during this investigation. I believe the fifth amendment was designed
by our founding fathers to protect people from excessive government
persecutions. Grand juries should be guarding the Constitution.
Name:
email:
Name: Richman
email: megarich@msn.com
Message: Dear Hillary,
Dump Bill and go with me. I don't even like to be licked down there. I'm shy and its real hard to meet the right woman. I'll treat you better, honest. I'll sweet talk you better than Bill and I won't ever go out with other women no matter how young or good looking they are. If its power you want you can run my company. We gross more that Bill has ever earned in his lifetime. I sit on top my money, not knowing what to do with it or who to spend it on. You could give me direction. I come from a big family so you boss my brother's children around. I don't want any and besides your to old to bear some for me. I live on the Left coast and we can see your rich friends on southern california real easy by taking my jet to LAX. I have a hanger there with my company. I'll never put you through the things Bill has done the past 5 years, embarassment and all. I'll even hold your hand and warm your heart as you walk around your church. I'm also a good cook. No more junk food for my love. As you can see, I'd be a much better choice for your support than "That Man" and I'd never have women call me up while I have you. Hope to have your response and love.
Rich
Name: rob
email:
Message: My daddy always said when times is darkest, find hope in a better tommorow.
Look beyond this dark day and see the light of a new dawn.
Hillary Clinton for President in 2000!
Name: Justice
email:
Message: All of you Sheep - read this and weep.
For this is just one of the laws that your Beloved "ALPHA" male and his
mate have REPEATEDLY VIOLATED. The history books will document what an embarassment
this administration has been to the USA.
[CRIMINAL CODE, TITLE 18. CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, PART I.
CRIMES CHAPTER 73, SECTION 1503. Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force,
or by any threatening letter or communication, endeavors to influence, intimidate,
or impede any grand or petit juror, or officer in or of any court of the United States,
or officer who may be serving at any examination or other proceeding before any
United States magistrate judge or other committing magistrate, in the discharge
of his duty... or corruptly or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter
or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence,
obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be punished as
provided in subsection (b). The punishment for an offense under this section is--
imprisonment for not more than 10 years, a fine under this title, or both.]
Name: Response to Justice (message above)
email: lighten.up@no.nazis.com
Message: For goodness sakes,(Mr. "Justice" above) you have too much nazi in you. You want to
imprison Bill for 10 years, etc., and derail our country for a blow job? You are a punishment freak who would be totally happy stoking the fires
in the concentration camps. I don't approve of what
our president has done, but I would much rather have him than a nazi like
you.
Name: Justice
email:
Message: I was not aware that our laws were written by Nazis. You obviously did not read the statute closely. Since when was enforcement of just laws written to protect YOU and the government from actions that would subvert the justice system reflective of Nazi Germany? Too bad for you that "Nazis" like me ARE in a position to enforce the laws of this country. Justly AND Fairly.?chat_name=Justice Oh, by the way, "lighten up", I could care less who's head is in the man's lap - even if it's yours. You seem to think that this is all based on sex. The inpropriety goes much deeper than that. Remember, Nixon wasn't forced to resign over the actual break-in but for his extreme attempts to cover it up. If the man is innocent, let him take the stand and explain just like he claimed he would.
Name: sick of it all
email:
Message: In 1996, Clinton made a joke at a Connecticut fund-raiser about a recently discovered mummified young Inca woman.
"You know, if I were a single man, I might ask that mummy out," Clinton said. "That's a good-looking mummy."
Presidential Spokesman Mike McCurry rode with the press home to Washington, and, after a cocktail, muttered, "Probably she does look good compared to the mummy he's been f------."
Way to go MORON. Another "lapse of Sanity"?
Name: curious
email:
Message: Was it a vast right wing conspiracy that procured all of those FBI files? Did the conspiracy force Susan MacDougal to clam up and not divulge the truth when she has immunity from prosecution? Is Jesse Jackson a member of the conspiracy along with the NAACP because they want an investigation into Ron Brown's death? Did a member of the conspiracy clue you into the profitable world of Cattle Futures? You don't recall who hired Greg Livingstone - was it the vast right wing conspiracy? Is Monica Lewinsky a member of the conspiracy trying to pass on some disease to your husband via intimate contact? Who hid your billing records for Whitwater for two years - must have been the conspiracy, eh? Did the conspiracy do in Vince Foster? Are Jim Guy Tucker and Jim MacDougal guilty just because the right wing conspiracy says it is so? Mike McCurry has denied that neither the White House nor any of the lawyers connected with the president have hired private investigators to dig up information on Starr and his staff and to locate past loves of Monica Lewinsky yet a private investigator who formerly controlled "bimbo eruptions" has stated that he has been hired by the president's lawyers. MUST BE A CONSPIRACY. Yeah, right...
Name: GOD
email:
Message: WANT TO FIND OUT WHERE THE LEAKS ARE? ASK "NBC, CNN, & CBS". THEY ARE THE ONES PROVIDING THE INFORMATION. DON`T LISTEN TO SOME "MEATHEADED" FIRST LADY.
Name: Hillary Clinton
email: FirstLady@Whitehouse.gov
Message: This message is for Richman. What a sweet message. After all the crude, sleazy,
offensive sexual messages I receive from men, yours is a breath of fresh air!
For every one decent message I get from the male gender there are at least ten which are from the lowest of the low. It seems they need to compete with each other to be the filthiest, lowest, slime on the earth. What is it with these men that they need to do this? It's so sad because it brings the whole culture down. Anyway, thanks once again for your very kind message. If I didn't have to run the country for two more years I would consider your offer. Only kidding, but it's a nice thought, and would be a tremendous relief from what we are going through here in the White House. Take care.
Name: craig livingstone
email: hitman@hillary.command
Message: Mrs. Clinton, (oopps, I'm sorry, MS. President),
I took care of those arkansas state troopers who told
everyone about bill & the bimbos in the governor's
mansion, got the FBI files, hide whitewater papers,
made sure Ron Brown's gone, Mary Murphy at tarbucks
is no more, shredded fosters files & tried to fire
Bill in the travel officecare (travelgate). You only
pay me $5.44 per hour, minimum wage. My question
Madame President is, "WHEN DO I GET A RAISE IN PAY?"
Name: Ken Starr
email: worm@conspiracy.com
Message: Oh Hillary...come to me you hot wench! Your sturdy ankles make me red hot.
Can't you see that all of my efforts have only been to show you just how much that
Bill character is unworthy of you....ooooooohhhhhh it burns me up to see him
treat you so bad. I will go to the ends of the earth for you. We can play dress up
like on that video I have of you. You can be the colonial Barmaid and I'll be
Thomas Jefferson wouldn't that be GLORIOUS! Come to me harlot. Fill me with your
wine and I will take you...TAKE YOU....oh yes oh yes oh yes.....yessssssssss
Name: Hillary Rodham Clinton
email: FirstLady@whitehouse.gov
Message: Oh Kenny .... I didn't know you were doing this all for me? ... and my "sturdy ankles" that
make you so hot! Oh Kenny, Kenny....Yessssss...I would love to play dress up with you for
your video collection.... except that we need to make a small change. This time I want you
to be the colonial Barmaid and I'll be Thomas
Jefferson's Special Persecutor Dominatrix... ohhhh...delicious! I have the perfect outfit for you..
I want you totally nude except for a cutesy white bonnet with huge satin bows and
a little frilly white apron that barely covers your cute little intimidating navel.
Oh...the thought -- my juices are flowing . . . Kenny, I can't wait to fill you
with wine..... Have you ever had a wine enema Kenny? I hope not 'cause I want to be the
first..... Come to me, you fat, flabby, sagging
mass of persecution. I want to take you ...TAKE YOU....Bend down Kenny dear.... After my
special wine enema I have another treat.... I'm going to whip your fat buns until
you beg for mercy. Beg me Kenny, beg me..beg me..more more more ..oh yes oh yes oh yes..yessssssss
Name: GOD
email:
Message: HILLARY IS WHAT IS KNOWN AS A "CUNNINGLINGUIST". WOMEN OF PURITY AND INNOCENCE, BEWARE !!!!!
Name: shicklegruver
email: brestesgarden
Message: Actung! Actung! you guys, layouff ta Heir Starr. Ve vant to get rid of all the gays, sexual perverts, & commies in de vithaus. Ve are tired of de lies & crimes vit dose 2 pinkies in de vit haus. Ve vant concentration time for dos tu birdies. Auvedersan.....Da Fuhrher
Name: monica's lawyer
email: ginsberg@180degree.DNCpay
Message: Hillary,
since your paying me to defend monica & I'm now one of the HILL & BILL lawyers. I'll keep the pressure on Ken Starr & the Independent Council. You know the best defense is a good offense & are we OFFENSIVE!
Name: Cooter
email: king@hill
Message: Oh....where's the South Park web site?
Name: dumb
email: blonde
Message: Dear Hillary,
Was that another staged picture? What colouring do you use for your hair? He does not look comfortable with you and you certainly are absorbed. Most wome that are drawn to psychopaths are absorbed by their words but he is a wonderful puppet for you a toy.
Hillary have you seen the pictures on many of the sights? You should read up on a few sites.
The people in other countries have fallen for that image of the leader doing everything for thier country. Saving them - the economy secured . Surprizing that no other president has done so much. Don't you find that incredible when polotitians worm up to the most intimate passions of people and drop bandaides on everyone. Don't you find that incredible when one president in all the history of the the presidents that only your husband can accomplish so much? Does he use any brain cells to think with or is he just dipping into social time? How much does he drink? Oh well it does not matter it is just another anesthetic to spare himself of the truth.
I was japping to my plastic surgeon, he said that they were sad to have removed some eagle tatoo and that they found it very sad to have to do this but they are happy to come forward to tell anyone howit is removed and they have a great video available that was filmed during the procedure. Its a great teaching video. I was so surprized how easily it is removed and how there are no scares.
Well enjoy your wonderful ski weekend. Too bad Clint hurt his knee sort of a beginning of the stumble of his office was that the weekend that Monica flashed her smile or maybe that was another time.
Do pray hard it will take a lot of prayer to cover up all those missing files and manipulations that you orchestrated.
I here Starr is going to supeonea God, its the only way he can get to the truth. God said he had a lot to say that he would be down in a week and it will take him several weeks to bring the whole truth to the front. Seems funding for trips and clothing will also have to be submitted. Dry cleaning. You forgot to pick up the SS jacket from the clan.
I'll catch you latter in a month or two I am tieredof reading the news but I will look forward to impeachment day. I can't wait until we can breakthrough all the wh games. I am haunted at how you can have so much fun while the reat of us have so much work to do. What clothing are you goping to wear? I think a tightly buttoned pin strpe suit would do well or an orange sambo. Get Bill to brush off the dandruff, his stress must be getting to him but it must be hard to face the nation knowing that everyone is uncomfortable.
Oh Hillary a few of us were talking at Starbucks, seems there is another bomb to come forward. Wait till you see her. She is beautiful. She seems to have known you from highschool and has a few tricks up her sleeve. She likes lawyers and she has her eyes open and has tape recorded all the noises that she can bring as evidence.
Have a great weekend.
Name: IT TAKES A NUDE VILLAGE?
email:
Message: PEOPLE, PLEASE TAKE NOTE: WHATEVER YOU WRITE HERE IS PROBABLY BEING PERMANENTLY RECORDED. THIS SITE MAY BE A MEANS OF IDENTIFYING THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. WHOEVER IS PUTTING FORWARD THIS "FRONT ORGANIZATION" THAT HAS BEEN PLACED IN THE WHITEHOUSE MAY IN THE FUTURE DESTROY ALL THOSE REGISTERD AS DISSIDENTS. LET US HOPE THE CIA AND FBI ARE STILL "AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONALISTS", AND ROUT OUT THESE COMMIE BASTARDS AND ALLOW "WE THE PEOPLE" ANOTHER CHANCE TO KEEP AMERICA GREAT.
Name: DNC Committee
email: Willey@bailout.Bill
Message: Dear Hillary,
Ms Willey will not testify against our billie boy for Ken Starr or the Paula Jones case. We took care of her financial needs. She has a nice apartment, new car, a new job & we promised her that billie won't grab her buns anymore. Yeah, you know billie he likes to play that game "Let me squeeze your buns, Ms Willey." We know billie was wrong to her-ass-her just after mr. willey passed on.
Name: mrs goldberg
email:
Message: do you know what a nazi is? I spent 4 years in a nazi concentration camp in poland. You don't kmow what a nazi is, my friend. Mr Starr is no nazi. He just seeks the truth. The truth will set us free! Save Nazism for the skin-heads & KKK' If you use a term like that casually, it won't mean much when real nazis are present.
Name: For Mr. Paranoid (above)
email: cool.it.hothead@CAPITAL.LETTERS.COM
Message: The Clintons have been accused of many things, but NEVER of having an ENEMIES LIST like Nixon did. Clinton may have a problem with zipper control, but
nobody has unearthed paranoia in his personality, or Hillary's.
Name: For Mrs Goldberg
email: welcome@this.forum.com
Message: No, I don't know what a nazi is personally, thank God, and have great sympathy for anyone that had experience with them. The horror of their reign of terror is beyond ordinary comprehension. The human psyche is unable to accept that such heinous crimes happened, and most people cannot bear to listen. Your point is well taken that if we use the word "nazi" loosely it will lose some of its impact when the real nazi appears.
However there is such a thing as the "slippery slope" if you believe that the end justifies the means. Mrs Goldberg, what I am understanding from you is that you are saying Mr. Starr should use any means toward the end (truth). The truth will not set us free if we use any means to attain it. As Bernie Ward says: "You don't have to tell the Germans that the Jews are in the attic."
Name: Billy Bob
email: 67chev@rev-um.com
Message: Where's the piss on Jeff Gordon web site?
Name: say
email: what
Message: Everything written in this forum is written without prejudice. It is written out of frustration and anger and a variety of truth that is found world wide.
Name: kim yong kyung
email: lovebong@nownuri.net
Message: cool!!!!!!!
Name: A FRIEND OF MRS GOLDBERG
email:
Message: NO ONE COULD TRULY UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THE CAMP UNLESS THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED IT THEMSELVES. LET ME PRESENT A UNIVERSAL TRUTH: "IF WE DO NOT INVESTIGATE THE PAST, WE ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT THE MISTAKES IN OUR PAST". CONSTANT STUDY AND VIGILANCE IS THE ONLY CURE FOR THE FUTURE. SO MANY DENY, IGNORE, AND LOOK THE OTHER WAY WHEN THERE IS A SERIOUS SYMPTOM OF A SOCIAL DISEASE PRESENT. THAT IS HOW SOCIOPATHIC KILLERS LIKE THE NAZIS ARE CREATED. FOR YOU, MY SPIRIT IS HERE TO DEFEND YOU AND YOURS. I WAS THERE WHEN THE GATES TO THE DEATH CAMPS WERE OPENED. I AM PROUD TO SAY "I WAS A RESCUER". ALL MY LOVE TO YOU ALWAYS.
Name: Another
email:
Message: Just think, the thoughtess and ignorant are allowing these two beasts to remain in office. Clinton & Gore = Hitler & Eichman. Who will be the exicutioners for these two monsters. Do not forget "Hitler was known as the comeback kid ansd was defended, loved, and supported just as hitler was". Is this a society gone mad?
Name: cool.down.extremist@reasonable.com
email:
Message: Pleeeease.... Clinton and Gore are NOT Hitler & Eichman. Only a mad or
ignorant person would believe that. You are prone to extremism of the worst
kind. Even your attempt to compare Clinton and Gore to the most most hated nazis of all time indicates a terrible sickness in your soul. Nobody who has
ever run for office, any office, in the USA can be compared to Hitler & Eichman. Turn yourself in to the nearest mental institution for even thinking like this. You are a very sick person.
Name: Proud Grandpa
email:
Message: My daughter just had her first child a baby girl, weighing 6 lbs 3 oz. It's a happy moment for me. It makes the world a little brighter. I have 2 other grand children but they were born through my -daughter-in-laws. This one is by my daughter. I having been reading this site for the last 3 or 4 days but what's this new world order & now everybodies calld hitler, nazi...starr, clinton & etc. America will never allow a new world order here because this is the greatest & most-free country on this planet. men & women have been dying for the last 200 years to preserve this liberty we have. We can do it,again. Politicians are bad! They will come & go but "We the People" will always be here to keep this country great. Our soldiers have bleed & died for freedom all over this world & many are still there beneath the ground to keep freedom alive. My uncle, Ollie is buried in France from WWI. I wasn't even born then. I have uncles left behind in the south pacific (Phillipines & Iwo Jima) in WWII. My step-brother was wounded in the pacific on a destroyer fighting the japanese. We just need to regain our patriotic feeling again. Drugs & sexual immorally is most serious problem facing us. Not alcohol & tobacco. WE must bring God (creator) back in our lives, educate our children & stop the politicians from polarizing the races in America. The Clinton sex outrage will pass away & we can go on with our lives. We watch too much of these TV hype show about sex & are mesmerized by it. Remember, no kind of abuses can be tolerated (sex, drugs, lies, etc.) in a civilized society.
Name: Average American
email:
Message: I would send any amount of money to insure that both Clintons needed a defense
fund. Unfortunately they already have the most extensive propaganda machine in
the history of the world at their defense. More unfortunate than that, there are
millions of robots with IQ's that are exceeded by their waist sizes who are not
capable of knowing when they are fed absurd lies and distortions.
Congratulations you idiots, you probably even believe the lies and rigged results
of what are referred to as "polls". MSNBC made the mistake last night of
conducting a legitimate "call in" poll as to whether or not Ken Starr should
remain on the job. Almost in tears, they had to announce in disbelief that 80%
favored him staying. Explain that one you dipshits.
Name: EGORE, NOT AGROE
email:
Message: DO NOT SLEEP WHILE OTHERS ERODE AWAY YOUR RIGHTS AS AN AMERICAN. LIBERTY DOES NOT JUST "HAPPEN". IT GROWS OUT OF THE BLOOD OF THOSE WHO FOUGHT TO CREATE IT AND PRESERVE IT. WHEN THE FLAG IS REPLACED BY A CONDOM AND THE BLOOD OF OUR FOREFATHERS IS MISTAKEN FOR FECES, OUR LIBERTY WILL SLIP AWAY INTO A HOMOSEXUAL FANTASY WORLD. WE AMERICANS MUST NOT ALLOW THE WEAK TO OVERCOME THE STRONG. A TREE MUST NOT ALLOW THE ROT TO BREAK THE TRUNK THAT SUPPORTS THE FRUIT BEARING LIMBS. LIBERTY IS NOT A DREAM THAT HAPPENS OF ITSELF. LIBERTY IS THE NAME OF THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRYS CREATIVE HEROS
Name: prophecy
email:
Message: it took centuries for the caesars to cause the fall of the Roman Empire. It took 70 years for lenin,stalin & communism to cause the soviet union to fall & Russia to become a second class world power. It took castro & communism 35 years to make Cuba a third world nation. It took hitler & the nazis 12 years to have the rise & fall of the third reich. The clinton regime has been in power for 6 years with lies, sex preversion, crimes, stonewalling, cheating & socialism. How long will it take the clintons & the left-wing socialists to bring the greatest nation of the world, the USA to its knees & become the most corrupt society ever formed.
Name: doktor X
email:
Message: any speculation when we'll be hearing that "more rather than less...sonner rather than later " explaination? I guess about the same time that Bill releases his medical records. Wouldn't be hiding anything there...would ya Billy Boy?
Name: EGORE NOT AGORE
email:
Message: AMERICA IS THE WORLDS LAST CHANCE AT LIBERTY.
THE SICKENED AND WEAK MUST NOT SAP ITS STRENGTH AND BEAUTY BUT FIND WAYS TO PRESERVE .
Name: Anthony Lewis
email: REPRINT from SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, 3/3/98
Message: Taking their (Kenneth Starr and his assistants) good faith as given, what has gone wrong? I think it is a case of prosecutors losing distance, losing detachment: constitutional detachemnt. In their zeal to unravel the Clinton-Lewinsky story, Starr and his staff have lost sight of the consequences of their methods for our consitiutional system.......
Name: logic
email: piesquare@iname.com
Message: Most democrats or liberals comments mention how godfearing and moral the
Clintons are. Bill already admitted to having a long affair with Gennifer
Flowers so isn't that a sin? Did Hillary not ever suspect while he was
governor or did she know but did not want to get off of her ride to the
white house? Clinton supporters seem to think the Clintons are the average
american family. Have the Clintons been friends with any middle-income
american families? I only here about them being good friends with executives,
judges, high priced attorneys, celebrities, millionaires.. etc. Please write
if anybody knows the answer. Also, does anybody know how much the Clintons
are worth? The lived in a governors mansion before the whitehouse and Bill and
Hillary still pulled a salary. I know I would be close to being a millionaire
if I did not have to pay for a mortgage or most of my golfing (business expense)
and instead use the bulk of my middle income salary to invest wisely. They must
be rich, didn't hillary turn $1,000 into $100,00 in the stock market? Any answers?
Name: fedup
email:
Message: WASHINGTON, March 5 (UPI) _ A few hundred protesters shouting ``character does count'' and ``hey, hey, ho, ho, perjury has got to go'' have demonstrated near the U.S. District Court where a grand jury is hearing testimony on President Clinton's alleged sexual wrongdoing.
The protesters, most of them women, are critical of what they see as the president's ``lack of honesty and morality,'' despite his high approval ratings.
Bonnie Perry, chairman of the Character Does Count rally, says: ``We're dismayed about the way the polls are being interpreted, and how Americans are uncoupling the issue of job performance and character.''
Waving a sign reading ``I wouldn't let my daughter be a White House intern,'' Amy Jones Baskeron says Clinton's denials of an affair with Monica Lewinsky don't ring true.
Baskeron said, ``We see a lot of obfuscation, a lot of spin, a lot of tale-telling coming out of the White House, and we're not buying it.''
On the topic of whether many American women are willing to overlook presidential infidelity, as long as the country's economy is prospering, one woman suggested, ``I'll bet if you asked any of these women whether it was OK for their husband to have an affair, the answer would be no.''
Name: what
email: next
Message: Why blame Starr for anything. It is not his actions that have created this situation.
Name: Why Blame Starr
email: For What Next Above
Message: This messages is for "what next" It has been said several times on this board but you still don't get the point. Here it is again:
Name: Nice Legacy
email: history@usa.org
Message: Mrs. Clinton's involvement in the representation of Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan, the failed bank owned by James McDougal which cost American taxpayers $60 million, is chronicled in some now-infainous Rose Law Firm billing records. These records, turned over to the Senate Whitewater Committee on January 5, 1996, turned up in the White House after being under subpoena for almost two years. The records were discovered in the White House Book Room, which is adjacent to the Clintons' private residence and is restricted to all but a few individuals.
At issue is Mrs. Clinton's involvement in the sham real estate deal known as Castle Grande. The Committee concluded that "Mrs. Clinton's involvement in Castle Grande was much more extensive than she has thus far owned up to." When asked by the Resolution Trust Corporation about her involvement in the deal, Mrs. Clinton responded, "I do not believe I knew anything about any of these real estate parcels and projects."
The billing records tell a different story. They identify Hillary as the billing partner on Castle Grande; indeed, she billed more time on this project than any other Rose Law Firm attorney. According to the Committee, the Rose Law Firm billing records "indicate that Mrs. Clinton - contrary to her previous statements represented Mr. McDougal's S&L in connection with the Castle Grande project, which federal regulators have criticized as a series of sham land sales and insider transactions."
If Mrs. Clinton willfully gave false statements under oath concerning her representation of Madison, she would be guilty of perjury. In addition, if she made false statements to banking regulators or congressional investigators, she may be guilty of obstruction of justice if her statements had the effect of or intent to "obstruct or impede" any proceeding before federal bankin
Name: First Fraud
email: yourehistory@usa.org
Message: ... intent to "obstruct or impede" any proceeding before federal banking regulators or congressional investigators. In order to constitute obstruction of justice, the false statements need not be made under oath.Few people are known to have definitely handled the Rose Law Firm billing records. The fingerprints of Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster do appear on the documents. Moreover, of all people with access to the White House Book Room, the Committee determined that most of them gave plausible denials of having placed the billing records in the Book Room, due to the fact that these people "had neither the opportunity to possess the billing records nor the motive to conceal them from investigators for nearly two years."
The Committee determined that only three people had shown an interest in and had handled the billing documents in August 1995, the time when they disappeared: Vince Foster, Webster Hubbell, and Hillary Clinton. Foster and Hubbell could be discounted, Foster having died on July 20, 1993, and Hubbell having been incarcerated on August 7, 1995.
While the Committee states that it cannot state with certainty who put the records in the Book Room," all indications point to Mrs. Clinton
Name: What
email: next
Message: "In other words: Any means toward an end is wrong. History is full of horrendous crimes that started off with the belief that any means toward the end was OK. I hope you change your mind before you personally resort to any means toward an end, and find out the hard way that it was very wrong. "
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I will never change my opinion of Starr.
Clinton's behavior is in and of itself wrong:It is not enough for someone in his position to say what he can do. The question is what, in wisdom, he should do.
He should have considered this before he choose to live as he does. His choice don't blame Starr.
Name: A
email: Silentend
Message: Is there danger that people will have a tendency to listen to Bill and Hill, to thier life and become dependent on thier words rather then seeking out the truth? It really is a a tuff road to not be dependent on those in power to look after our needs finding our own way.
As women and men we really have to learn to respect our selves enough to say no. To not be used. To not follow like children but be adult.
Name: ps
email: off
Message: Shall we all stand attention to Albright??????
Her public appearance is like Hitler, we don't need a hilter right now. This type of arrogant aggression will only lead to more problems. Why the attack when Iraq is complying?
Name: For "What Next" - Again
email: you.still.dont.get.it@once.again.com
Message: "I will never change my opinion of Starr. Clinton's behavior is in and of itself wrong."
Your mistake is that you ASSUME I applaud Clinton's behavior. I don't. I find his sexual dalliances a HUGE embarrasment. I see it as a serious weakness, but that does not excuse Starr from demonstrating to the world that it's OK to terrorize and intimidate innocent people, violate constitutional law, and display the total disrespect for human dignity that he has. I assume that you would not mind Starr dragging your innocent loved ones under the hot lamp tomorrow because he thought maybe they could add something to his investigation? This wouldn't bother you, would it? And after your loved ones are thoroughly terrorized for hours on end, to see them taken out in a wheelchair, would you just stand there and say, "I will never change my opinion of Starr. I don't care what he does to my family, just so long as he can prove Bill and Monica had sex."
Name: Rewriting the Constitution
email: get.rid.of.Starr@out.of.control.gov
Message: Kenneth Starr is trying to rewrite the Constitution to criminalize criticism. Starr's subpoenas of White House aides like Sidney Blumenthal, a former journalist, are real threats to free speech. Forget Clinton -- in two more years he'll be out of office, but Starr's clear abuse of power will set a precedent which will come back to haunt us for years to come.
Name: Veteran
email: me@you.com
Message: How can anyone stay married to a CREEP like Bill? My wife would of left me as soon as she heard it.And I couldn't blame her!
Bill has no morals whatsoever.He's a liar and a chicken-sh*t.IMPEACH the PRICK!
Name: I would have left him too.
email: you@me.too.com
Message: I left a husband like Bill, for the same reasons. He was a good looking, distinguished man, who just couldn't resist the women who threw themselves at
him. "It's a weakness," my friends and advisors told me. "He takes good care
of you and the kids, so why trade him for someone else who could be worse."
They had a point. I stuck with him until the kids grew up and left the home.
But by that time I didn't believe I could find a monogamous man who was also
attractive, dynamic, intelligent and exciting, and unfortunately it always turned out that way, so I gave up and I'm still single. Maybe in the next lifetime they will make men differently, or maybe evolution will kill off all the horndogs because they are more likely to contract sexual diseases. Maybe they will invent a "monogamy pill" for men like Bill. Frankly, I don't think he is in control of it. I can't imagine any man in his right mind would risk so much for a brief fling, especially after all the bimbo scandals that beset him before he got elected. But there are a lot of men like this. Why? I hesitate to call it a "moral" thing, because it seems to be akin to alcoholism, a compulsion beyond his control. I often remind myself that: "There, but for the grace of God, go I." So what would I do if I was reborn into this world with a sexual compulsion beyond my control like Bill Are there any men reading this forum that could throw some light on the question. This is an anonymous forum, I think we could all benefit from your honesty if you are such a man. What should Bill have done if we could replay this movie?
Name: Not a horndog
email:
Message: I've been married 38 years to the same woman. I've desired other woman & have been situations where I could have or would have gone over the edge. i am still verile & still get excited every day. For my age at 59, I'm still muscular because I work out & have fair looks. Woman of all ages have fiirted with me but I still haven't step over the line. I sometimes wonder about all the women I've missed & what it would have been like to do what Bill the horndog did & does. But I have the same wonderful woman that I fell in love with & I am proud that I am the only man that she has ever known sexually. She still thinks that I'm a great lover but I know that there are better lovers for her out there in this wild world. We took a vow before God that we would never divorce no matter what & that we would work it out. She isn't a raving beauty but she has a lot of great qualities that I couldn't find in any other woman. We hope to make it to 50 years God willing.
Name: KENN STARR
email:
Message: IF YOU HORNDOGS DON'T LET ME DO MY JOB, CLINTON WILL REWRITE THE CONSTITUTION AND BE THE FIRST PRESIDENT TO SERVE A NUMBER OF TERMS LIMITED BY HIS HEALTH AND AGE. BILL HAS NO PLANS ON LEAVING OFFICE.
THIS MEANS "THIS COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE MAY BE ON ITS OWN DEATH MARCH IF THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT PRESERVED".
Name: Should Hillary Divorce Bill?
email: throw.the.creep.out@whitehouse.gov
Message: I know Hillary cannot divorce Bill at this time, but when it's all over and
they are out of office, should she dump him? She would be much better off
as a single woman without having to cover and defend him all the time. Must
be very embarrassing for her, notwithstanding the fact that she also has to be concerned about picking up STD from him. Ugggg.... it's sick to think about it from her position.
I would vote for her if she was not attached
to him, but I would never vote for her while he was still around. She deserves a lot better for herself personally.
Name: You lost your star witness Starr!!
email: died@the.slammer.gov
Message: Kenny, you just lost your star witness, James McDougal, who died of a heart attack in jail. Please wrap this thing up, Kenny. You've spent $40 million dollars to
prove to us that Bill is a sex addict. Our president is a dirty joke, thanks to your spending $40 million to unearth this national embarrasment. You can't impeach him for being a horndog, or even for lying to cover up his horny dogness, so please tell us how this has helped us? Maybe there's a silver lining in this dirty cloud, I don't know.
Name: coronary
email: mmmm
Message: Is it not amazing how all the people with any knowledge just keep disappearing. Must be some mythical reason beyond the human grasp. Everything always etched so proper for the press, well prepared. With all wrapped up tight, as any testimony can't be cross examined when one has passed on, I just wonder when the next spring will open the package or if this is the end of a long saga that got nowhere? Congrats to Hillary and Bill for once more making it through the eye of the camel. May our thirst for truth be quenched without the hot wind from a dessert where cacti bloom in unusual circumstances. May the stars themselves speak the truth and lead the people to discern the truth and that this land be healed with the people's true power.
Name: U.S. Citizen
email: yunohu.usa.net
Message: It's not only the people with the knowledge who disappear, but it's the web sites with the truth that disappear as well. What ever happened to WWW.HILLARYSHAIR.COM????
Name: Ed "Healthcare Psycho" Poe
email: Edgar_Allen@Poe.edu
Message: Clinton-Gore,
NEVERMORE!
Name: Maria Larsson
email:
Message: My name is Maria Larsson, Odinsgatan 22c, 41103 Göteborg, Sweden
This is th first time Iám in Internet. My english is bad. Hope you and Bill
have a nice evning. Plese send me a messige when you have read this.
Godbye from Sweden.
Maria Larsson
Name: U.S. Bureau of Prisons
email: no.pee.pee.you.die@prison.gov
Message: ASSOCIATED PRESS - After failing to give a sample for a random drug test Saturday night, McDougal was removed from the general inmate population and placed in solitary confinement. While in solitary, McDougal stood up for an inmate count at 10:30 a.m. CST Sunday, but he was found stricken 25 minutes later. He died of an apparent heart attack.
Name: Pepper
email: Me@home.com
Message: Why is it, when Clinton took office there were 4 lawyers at his disposal,but now there is 34?
This costs the tax payers as much as Starr is spending.Get rid of him and lets move on!
Name: Adam Inczčdy-Gombos
email: asa.moberg@aftonbladet.se
Message: Dear Hillary.
Thank you for not bombing Irak.
Good luck tomorrow.
Don´t panic, keep cool.
Have a nice week-end.
First red to the first Lady.
Adam. Dalarna. Sweden.
Name: Prison
email: no pee
Message: As I worked as a care aide in a long term care facility. Many elder men have difficulty giving samples of urine. Since he was unable to pass water for such a long time the mefical staff should have been alerted. Poor Jim as a human being so ill with so many problems medically and a tough prison that can't even consider such simple common sense with such matters defering medical treatment.
Name: anyone
email: awake
Message: Now my nerves got a little gittery with the whole Iraq mess and I am non to happy until all those bacterial and chemical war slugs are dismanteled. Now you have up set me again. Now you are going to increase China's nuclear power. The have made Tibet a wasteland with nuclear power. Do this and kill us all. China stands silently for Iraq. Please no Nuclear power to China. Your buddy relation with CHINA is scarey. You give me the gebegeebes and are causing me to not sleep at night. As well just keep your gropping hands to yourself, your actrions towards women is disgusting no matter if your wife approves, it is not acceptable to many of us women who really care about ourselves, some of us have excellant friendships with men that does not involve sex and it really upsets me that you think so low of women to only "use" thier bodu like a dirty old man who thinks he has some right over women to chase them horn on them, grew up no women likes to be treated this way and for those that do , perhaps you need to ask yourself why your self esteem is so low? Why do you need this kind of excitment?
Why play with a married man? Is that all that you feel you deserve? That is sad. Do you really think yoou can get a man with a bit of sex? That Kind of mentality there would be many married whoars! I really am tiered of all the gushing as thugh women just go into titters over the president, sort of like some women did with the beatls. The president is old, he says what ever you want to hear, he is on a noose with his wife, a lame duck, drinking bags under his eyes, overweight, his hair short like a school boy, childish, why bother.
Name:
email:
Message: i love hillary
Name: HUMPTY
email:
Message: HUMPTY DUMPTY SAT ON A WALL...............
Name: Who
email:
Message: I did not do do it
I did not do it
So were you picking
roses in the garden?
I did not do it
I did not do it!
So were you tipping
the trooper?
I did not do it
I did not do it.
So were you
groping?
I did not do it
I did not do it.
So was your
tongue exploring?
I did not do it
I did not do it.
So where do you
wander late at night?
Nowhere, I
go nowhere.
So who does
all these things?
My shadow, my hands
all my other parts; do
these things but not I.
I am writing this message to ask you to forgive him. Whatever it is that you believe him
to have done, surely it is not so bad that we should tear our country to shreds in anger, and
shame us before the world. Many men have this syndrome. For centuries we have understood
it as some aberration in the fabric of our genetic makeup that predetermines a certain number
of men will turn out to be alpha males. Please don't exclude alpha males from the Presidency of this
wonderful democracy of ours. We all have weaknesses, that is the human predicament.
This may surprise you but Bill and I have a good sex life. There is nothing more exciting than
mating with an alpha male.
Whenever we have a full week together you can bet that we make love at least twice that week.
We begin by holding our hands together in prayer until we feel a warm oneness descend into our
hearts, minds and bodies. We are bathed in the light of each other's love and sensuality. Slowly the mating
dance begins in slow motion. Each time it's a different movement and I never know what it will
be until we are in a type of flowing ballet, merging with the light into a heavenly space. I know those of you who are in love will understand this as a meditation in physical and sexual union. The mind and body are one transmitting vital energy into one another. We love each other very much -- a love which grows stronger with every passing year.
We want to show our love for this country and ask for your messages of support.
My extramarital dalliances are just a response to my "alpha male hormones", and have nothing to do with Hillary at all. Something like an alcoholic, it is a compulsion I wish I did not have but cannot help, and would like to remedy it if I only knew how. Please understand that. There is nothing a woman can do for me that Hillary cannot do better.
Hillary and I have been practicing spiritual yoga together since we first met. On a psychological level our deepest need as men and women is to overcome our separateness; to leave the prison of our aloneness. This desire for interpersonal fusion is our most powerful struggle. It is our most fundamental passion. It is the force that keeps the human race together.
It takes years of practice to reach the sensual and spiritual yoga positions and guided meditations that Hillary and I enjoy together. The practice is continually evolving and we become closer with every passing year.
The one you need to fear is Kenneth Starr. I would not be surprised if he has
re-assigned one of his FBI agents he sent on a "panty raid" to snoop at what
we are writing on this forum.
As you can tell this forum is entirely anonymous. There is no way Kenneth Starr could get his hands on the writers of this information unless he got a court order to review the logs, for what that's worth, and it 'aint much. He could only get the most recent logs and all that would tell him is which servers surfers came in from, and the date and time....THEN he would have to get a court order to go into thousands of different servers and match up who logged out from that server at that exact time. I figure he would need all of his $30,000,000 allowance to get that information. And when he got that what would he do with it??? He still could not prove that it was actually you at your computer that wrote these messages. Maybe it was your co-worker, or your kid, or employee. There are no fingerprints. So be practical. The only ones poor Kenny could get are those that leave real email addresses and the people who run this forum. Be practical -- It isn't worth his time or money to get us, and what would he get us for?
"Any means toward an end" is in itself the seed out of which nazism originally grew. If you allow this "bad seed" to grow, at what point as the tendrils of this loathesome plant grows do we cut it off? If we let it grow too big we get used to it until it overpowers and destroys us. I like to get rid of the noxious weeds in my garden when they first pop their ugly heads out of the ground. Mr. Starr is using intimidation, persecution and terror to get at the truth. What is this "truth" and is it worth the means? What would you say if Kenneth Starr hauled you under the hot lamps next week and forced you to betray your child or be thrown into jail for contempt? I agree with you that the nazis would have done much worse to you, but I also hope you can see that he is a noxious weed and should be cut down before other people in authority get the idea that this is OK. It is NOT OK in America. We strive for a BETTER WORLD.
"Misinformation is being spread about personnel involved in this investigation," Starr said. "We are using traditional and appropriate techniques to find out who is responsible and whether their actions are intended to intimidate prosecutors and investigators..."
In other words, anyone who offers misinformed criticism of the Starr staff may be hauled before a grand jury. That bespeaks far too thin a skin for a prosecutor.
"We are going by the book," he (Starr) said last week. But other prosecutors do not have his kind of unaccountable power, and their target is not the president. It is not enough for someone in his position to say what he can do. The question is what, in wisdom, he should do.
If you don't understand it read some of the other messages. Starr's behavior is in and of itself wrong:
In other words: Any means toward an end is wrong. History is full of horrendous crimes that started off with the belief that any means toward the end was OK.
I hope you change your mind before you personally resort to any means toward an end, and find out the hard way that it was very wrong.
You are still attaching Clinton's behavior to Starr's in order
to prove your point. Most people think like this, unfortunately. In other words "I can behave badly because the other person deserves it. Or, I behave badly because it's good for (you, profits, the nation,etc.). Or, my behavior isn't bad because (you, the nation, your company, etc) will benefit from it. Most people switch or confuse the issues to rationalize their negative behavior, which is very sad for all of us. It takes a lot of mental training and discipline to keep your moral issues straight.
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